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Fraser Ross MacInnes | 13:04 - 19 September 2013
If anything the Surface is validation of Microsoft's weakness in hardware (or at least validation of its poor hardware reputation/cred among consumers given its dismal sales figures). I suspect a Nokia designed and built WM8 tablet would be a far superior device.
John Owens | 23:19 - 18 September 2013
I think Apple should be worried actually.
They're obviously trying to hold on to the high-end but with phones all becoming more that powerful enough for what they're used for there won't be a high-end in a couple of years.
My wife just bought a cheap £100 (Contract free) Nokia Windows 8 phone and it's fast and responsive with a screen larger than the iPhone 4 (which I own) plus the OS is pretty cool as well.
Personally apart from the fact I'm more used to iOS I don't see a reason to go for a new iPhone which is £400 dearer. Although I've also not had a reason to upgrade in 2 odd years.
I think Microsoft are getting Nokia on the cheap.
Nokia have done the hard risky work and I think they're just at the point when their curve (revenue/share price etc) was about to really improve however I also don't think they have much of a choice to sell. They couldn't compete against Microsoft if it brought out it's own phone and the writing has been on the wall since the Surface launched.
Fraser Ross MacInnes | 09:21 - 16 September 2013
I think the bad management decision was not tackling the smartphone market sooner, something Nokia was well placed to do. An even bigger sin was to not react swiftly to the competition. Many consumers did make the switch to smartphones in one jump (many of them previous Nokia customers) - the fact that it's the biggest device growth category for consumers in recent times bears that out. There's no denying that however one looks at the figures, Nokia from a business point of view dropped the ball on smartphones and it is paying the price now. That doesn't mean it hasn't produced some of the most delicious smartphones on the market - it has. I just wish we'd seen them 2-3 years sooner.
jon jordan | 12:40 - 12 September 2013
I refer your readers to The Innovator's Dilemma. I'm sure the next edition will have a chapter on Nokia.
It's a classic example of how a great company, which is brilliant at doing one thing, fails to spot the advantages of another thing...
Keith Andrew | 15:15 - 10 September 2013
The numbers were a hangover from an era already long past, John - consumers didn't switch to smartphones in one jump. There were plenty who, for a multitude of reasons, stuck with Symbian for quite a time. Some even by Symbian today. It was still right to move away from it though.
My point is, it's wrong to see it as a decline. When Nokia pulled away wholesale from the platforms is had built its entire business around, it was essentially starting from 0. Symbian sales from that point were meaningless. And so, to use the figures you cited as evidence as an example of 'bad management' from Elop is a false argument - those figures are a result of that same pull away from Symbian that you say you support. That drop would have happened whatever platform Nokia switched to.
"Better leadership may have prevented such a big loss of marketshare" - how, exactly? Give a free Lumia to every consumer who has a Symbian phone? That's just a nonsense, fantasy-based line. The drop was inevitable. It's all now about how gradual or steep the climb back up is.
John Ozimek | 14:28 - 10 September 2013
Keith - just for the record, I'm not suggesting that Elop should somehow have moved from Symbian and kept Nokia's marketshare - it was obvious that there would need to be a painful restructure. But I think that better leadership may have prevented such a big loss of marketshare - I simply don't buy the talk of Elop being the next CEO of Microsoft, as I think he has made some bad calls - including the 'burning platforms' memo, which should never have gone public.
The numbers are a good reminder of where Nokia was, even with an outdated strategy. They have fallen a very long way.
All this is with the benefit of hindsight.... :-)
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