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Jobs in Games: Dream Reality Interactive's Anna Hollinrake on how to get a job as a senior artist

"There's something delicious and intangible about focusing in on exactly what makes the game feel the way it does and how to communicate that as a whole"

Jobs in Games: Dream Reality Interactive's Anna Hollinrake on how to get a job as a senior artist

The games industry plays host to an excellent cast of colourful and diverse individuals, from artists and coders to narrative designers and studio heads. 

The skills to pull off these roles, however, are complex and differing. With each position requiring mastery in its field.   

As such, seeing a game come together is a beautiful thing akin to a puzzle as an overall picture becomes whole. 

To highlight some of the brilliant work that goes on behind the screen, and help others who may be keen to dive in, PocketGamer.biz has decided to reach out to the individuals who make up the games industry with our Jobs in Games series.

This time, the spotlight is on Dream Reality Interactive's senior artist and one of BAFTA's 2017 Breakthrough Brits Anna Hollinrake.

Alongside Dream Reality Interactive, chances are you may have seen Hollinrake's work in a number of places from Climax Studios' Lola and the Giant or Stainless Games' Magic: Duels or its Kaladesh, Eldritch Moon, Shadows Over Innistrad and Oath of the Gatewatch expansions. 

PocketGamer.Biz: Can you tell us a bit about your current role and what it entails?

Anna Hollinrake: I'm a senior artist that has a hand in art direction, so I will basically shape the general look and feel of the game whilst still getting my hands dirty with concepting the look of the game, the mood of the levels and the props, assets, characters, and all the other bits in between.

Climax Studios' Lola and the Giant

Then, because I like far, far too many things, I tend to do a lot of the 3D building of assets too.

It also involves giving feedback to other artists and communicating with the client. There's a whole lot of different responsibilities.

How did you first get into games and how did you progress into this role?

I initially started out in a generalist trainee artist placement and then ricocheted around the country to different studios, with a whole lot of luck helping me out alongside that.

Around 16 I realised that people made games and that I could work on them too, given they were the vehicle in which I could make the art I most wanted to see.
Anna Hollinrake

The most significant moment that pushed me toward where I am now was probably my redundancy in 2016, in which Climax Studios scooped me up and almost immediately had me working on Lola and the Giant.

It was one of those beautiful moments of the planets aligning just right - my personal work slotted in perfectly with the project lead's vision and it really taught me just what an enthusiastic and engaged team is capable of.

As a result of my work on that I ended up receiving seniorship, as well as recognition through BAFTA's Breakthrough Brits program.

Is it something you ever imagined yourself doing?

I was actually pretty single-minded about getting into games! Around 16 I realised that people made games and that I could work on them too, given they were the vehicle in which I could make the art I most wanted to see.

I made a plan and did a whole lot of research and eventually got in.

What did you study (if anything) to get your role? What courses would you advise for aspiring professionals in the area?

I studied Game Art at De Montfort University. It was really appealing because of their strict focus on artistic fundamentals - I'm a big believer in learning to artistically run before you can walk.

It's got an impressive alumni of students and has a wonderful community vibe.

Climax Studios' Lola and the Giant

I do, however, want to drive home that you can learn most (if not all) of what you learn on expensive degree courses online.

There's something delicious and intangible about focusing in on exactly what makes the game feel the way it does and how to communicate that as a whole.
Anna Hollinrake

The time to learn plus the network you get from it are invaluable, but it's perfectly possible to get into games without a degree.

No one ever asks for one, I promise.

What part of your role do you find most fulfilling?

Collaborating with others and finding 'the feeling' of the game.

There's something delicious and intangible about focusing in on exactly what makes the game feel the way it does and how to communicate that as a whole.

Worldbuilding is a huge one for me too - I love to create worlds that feel loved and lived in.

Whenever I get to dive into the nitty-gritty details of how the world works I'm happy.

Do you think there are any misconceptions, public or professional, surrounding your area of expertise?

For people getting into games? That it's particularly glamorous... it's still people sitting at desks getting cranky with their 3D software.

You will still have bad days (Maya crashed again and you lost your work), and boring days (UV mapping for 20 years), even though it's games.

It's an aspirational industry so I think a lot of people feel like they have to love every damn minute of it, but that's a whole lot of pressure to put on yourself.

Dream Reality Interactive's Arca's Path VR

For people on the outside? It's people trying to do their best with the time they have.

Art isn't going anywhere. You can take your time getting into the industry - it isn't a race.
Anna Hollinrake

Art takes time and sometimes things don't make it through that the artists really, really, really wanted to showcase.

It's frustrating for the devs, believe me. But please assume the best in the developers when things don't quite come out the way you expect - we're people too!

Is there anything about the job/industry you wish you would have known when first joining?

That taking time out is okay, Artists have a tendency to overwork themselves - just like anyone in a creative field - but constant productivity tends to lead to both not much getting done and also an awful lot of burnout.

Art isn't going anywhere. You can take your time getting into the industry - it isn't a race.

And if you need to take a break? Art will always be there when you come back.

What other advice do you have for someone looking for a job in this profession?

Be a friendly, communicative human being.

Soft skills are vital for collaborating with designers and programmers, but they're often overlooked by artists that just want to study and improve their craft.

I say do both!

Staff Writer

Iain is a freelance writer based in Scotland with a penchant for indies and all things Nintendo. Alongside PocketGamer.Biz, he has also appeared in Kotaku, Rock Paper Shotgun, PCGamesN and VG24/7.