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The secret of Scopely’s success? How we think about IP, says CEO

The secret of Scopely’s success? How we think about IP, says CEO

Long ago, so long ago it seems like another age (but it was only 2012), the rise of free-to-play mobile games resulted in a strange resurrection: publishers.

Only this wave of publishers didn’t want to be called publishers. For example, New York City-based outfit Tilting Point labelled itself an “independent games partner”, while West Coast rival Scopely preferred the term “next-generation mobile entertainment network”.

Seven years on, both companies have modified their business models somewhat, but still refuse the term ‘publisher’. Scopely is now a “leading interactive entertainment and mobile games company” while Tilting Point calls itself a “next-generation games partner”.

Nomenclature aside, both are thriving, especially Scopely.

From With Buddies to The Walking Dead

Scopely’s upward trajectory hasn’t been without bumps along the way though.

Early release Mini Golf Matchup was fun but not a massive success. Perhaps it’s now best positioned as a worthy precursor to Warner/Playdemic’s Golf Clash: just another game before its time.

Similarly, Dice With Buddies was well put-together but didn’t quite have that zing. Ultimately, it didn’t matter. What did matter was it was good enough to catch Hasbro’s eye.

The result was 2015’s Yahtzee With Buddies and - to some degree - the rest was history. Relaunched in 2017 as Yahtzee With Buddies Dice, it’s a top 50 grossing game and Scopely’s best performing product; the foundation of the company’s ongoing success.

Scopely’s next hit was very different, however. Dropping the cutesy With Buddies theme, The Walking Dead: Road to Survival (released in 2015) is highly focused core game co-developed with Canadian outfit IUGO.

It’s generated over 200 million downloads, was Scopely’s first title to hit $100 million in lifetime revenue, and cemented the company's strategy of making games based on external licences.

With all our games, we think about serving an audience. We’re not IP-first. We’re audience first
Javier Ferreira

Scopely’s games since have used IPs ranging from Wheel of Fortune and Ellen DeGeneres to WWE. (A game based on the Breaking Bad TV series was soft-launched but eventually canned.)

“We look at IP as providing the framework for an audience,” comments Scopely’s co-CEO Javier Ferreira, who joined the company as COO in 2014 from Disney Interactive.

“With all our games, we think about serving an audience. We’re not IP-first. We’re audience first.”

He adds that while using an external IP provides more certainty, “there’s nothing preventing us from making a game using original IP".

What’s up, Doc?

What’s been really impressive, however, is how adept Scopely has become at choosing IP other companies have overlooked or underestimated.

Recent release Looney Tunes: World of Mayhem is a case in point. Characters such as Buggs Bunny, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd have global appeal (at least among a certain demographic) but are no longer considered top dollar.

 

Yet, combining that canon and its characteristic cartoon slapstick violence with the gameplay and metagame of a turn-based strategy RPG results in a surprisingly coherent experience.

“I think many people viewed Looney Tunes as a kids’ IP. We don’t,” Ferreira says.

“It’s mass-market. The game has a large DAU base. It’s for everyone and we think we can leverage that appeal while adding more core elements in terms of the gameplay; ‘mass core’ if you like.”

To Boldly Go

But it’s the release of Star Trek Fleet Command that demonstrates the full potential of this approach.

You have to understand the IP more deeply and craft the experience that the audience wants.
Javier Ferreira

Developed by Dublin-based DIGIT Game Studios, into which Scopely invested in May 2015, and fully acquired in May 2019, the game takes the well-worn, incredibly deep metagame of 4X titles such as Game of War, combining it with high-end 3D graphics and a much stronger level of immersion.

The Star Trek licence - the game uses the rebooted Kelvin Timeline - is the piece that ties everything together in a way that would be almost impossible to do with an original IP.

Scopely hasn’t been the only company attempting this sort of synergy, of course. Warner Bros’ Game of Thrones: Conquest and Disruptor Beam’s The Walking Dead: March to War are two similar 4X mobile games using high-profile IP, while Zynga attempted something similar with its internal Mafia Wars reboot.

Yet the fact Mafia Wars - like Scopely’s own Breaking Bad: Empire Business - was canned in soft launch, and March to War was closed down within 18 months, points to just how difficult it is to get this type of game to work thematically and commercially.

All of which throws the success of Star Trek Fleet Command in sharp relief. It’s Scopely fastest-launching title ever, generating $50 million in its first four months, and propelled the company’s overall annualised revenue run-rate to “well north of $400 million”.

“It’s a very large and complex game,” Ferreira explains of the title which has now been in development for four years.

“We could have launched it earlier but we spent a lot of time focused on the experience. Our attitude was always retention-first and it’s worked. The KPIs are through the roof.”

What’s really impressive is how adept Scopely has become at choosing IP other companies have overlooked or underestimated.

In terms of how the Star Trek IP helped, Ferreira says the strong lore and passionate fanbase provided a foundation. What was also important was “no-one had previously delivered against the IP’s potential in terms of a mobile game”.

Ironically perhaps, before Fleet Command, the previously most successful Star Trek mobile game was Star Trek Timelines, developed by Disruptor Beam and ‘published’ by Tilting Point. But as a narrative RPG based on the 1960s TV series, it was always more niche.

“You have to understand the IP more deeply and craft the experience that the audience wants,” Ferreira says.

Success only comes if you can also combine this with usual F2P mobile game essentials such as live operations in terms of in-game events and special retailing to maintain fan interest.

Jewel in the crown

Looking ahead, Scopely’s next high profile task is rebooting already popular mobile franchise Temple Run as a match-three puzzler.

As with Star Trek Fleet Command, it’s taking its time and making sure the experience - called Temple Run: Treasure Hunters - chimes with an existing audience that’s measured in the hundreds of millions. In this task, it’s working with developer Mediatonic (who it also worked with YAHTZEE)for and original IP holder Imangi Studios.

Originally soft-launched in 2016, the game was eventually withdrawn and has been reworked into a much more welcoming experience, both in terms of art style and UX, and is now back in public testing.

“Yes, we've been working on this for a while but the soft launch is coming on nicely,” Ferreira says.

“We’re data-driven so we always look to the data to evolve a product to get the KPIs we need in order to be able to scale the audience. We’re still on that journey.”

And, more generally, Ferreira says it’s this sort of committed approach to game development that characterises Scopely’s rise as a company actively open to combining its internal strengths with the expertise of others.

“We’re not constrained by our talent,” he says.

“Balancing internal and external capabilities has been instrumental to our success because we can come up with an idea for say a strategy game including deep space exploration and then find a partner with that expertise.

“Certainly it’s more complex. You have to do the hard work to ensure you have a single game team but together one plus one results in three. We have found this to be a very powerful strategy.”

Contributing Editor

A Pocket Gamer co-founder, Jon is Contributing Editor at PG.biz which means he acts like a slightly confused uncle who's forgotten where he's left his glasses. As well as letters and cameras, he likes imaginary numbers and legumes.

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Arpit Singh
All lies, just check their official TWD RTS game forum and its Google Play Store reviews for the truth. Their greed knows no bounds. They try to leech on video game gambling addicts, that is the basis of their financial model for most games.
Paul Clifton
Jon Kang has summed it up quite well below. Here is a link to their official forum for The Walking Dead if you'd like to see how much they have alienated their player base: https://forums.scopely.com/

Unfortunately, due to sunk cost fallacy and the fact that Scopely has managed to use psychology to such a fantastic degree that people will think that gaining a recently released character in 1 big 99 dollar pull is now 'lucky' as most won't even manage that. They have fostered what has been described on their forums, multiple times, as a beaten wife/stockholm syndrome psychology with their players, with their players just hanging on hoping it will get better.

In the past few weeks, their ineptitude and incompetence has reached such epic heights that they have lost a huge swathe of the player base who have left in disgust, despite having invested 4 years of their lives and huge amounts of money into the game.

No IP should sell rights to this company, they will bring shame to its name. I hope Robert Kirkman never has to see what harm they have done to his IP.
Jon Kang
The only reason for Scopely's success is because they are scheming, fraudulent money-siphoning thieves. They are disrespectful of their players and have NEVER had an "audience-first" attitude that they claim to have. It fascinates me to no end how they have no shame in fabricating lies to the public like that.

Just take a look at the their official TWDRTS forum and you'll see the frustration built up in the players is going nuclear lately yet Scopely continues to pull off debacles after debacles.

The fact that they are leveraging on IPs to churn out games like this just desecrates these brands with established names and recognitions. They not only make themselves look bad, but inadvertently incite people to resent these brands of their perpetual incompetency.

Shame on Scopely. How these guys are not considered criminals is beyond me.