Interview

We sit down with Minidragon to discuss their record breaking Big Indie Pitch success

We talk to Minidragon's Hank Choi about The Big Indie Pitch

We sit down with Minidragon to discuss their record breaking Big Indie Pitch success

The Big Indie Pitch, a regular event run by the makers of PocketGamer.biz, sees indie developers engage in a rapid-fire pitching competition for fame and those sweet promotional packages.

The event gives indies four minutes to pitch their games to a panel of press, publishers, and industry pundits, each receiving invaluable feedback, before the judges pick three winners.

The indie view

The Big Indie Pitch is getting bigger and bigger as we bring it across the world. We've sat down with a number of past BIP contestants to offer their views on the event, its attendees, and the games on show.

The Big Indie Pitch goes digital

Today, we're speaking to Hank Choi from Minidragon, who created and pitched Hyper Dungeon, at The Digital Big Indie Pitch #14 (Mobile Edition) and walked away as the winner, in the process becoming the most successful pitcher in Big Indie Pitch history.

PocketGamer.biz: You are now the most successful studio to ever pitch at The Big Indie Pitch, with three wins with three different games. However, for those new to this, remind all of our readers about who you are, and what your goals and inspirations are.

Hank Choi: We are very honoured to have won 3 separate times, and thanks to all the judges who took a liking to our titles. We are Minidragon, a mobile game studio located in Hong Kong. As a small studio, we have complete freedom in our creativity, so we always strive to create something that we can’t find in the market. Within the genres we’ve covered, such as Action RPG, Pet Raising, or Dungeon Crawling, we always try to add our own twist to the game design.

You have won both live in-person pitches and digital pitches. How have you found all of your pitching experiences, and do you think your pitching style has evolved over time?

Our studio has 9 people, but we work on multiple titles simultaneously, with separate game leads who have full creative control. So it wasn’t just me pitching, the past wins were won by other members of our team, which I think is something quite unique about our studio.

Sonic directed and pitched Dungeon Warriors (now known as Tiny Fantasy). Lily directed and pitched Pixel Petz.

I personally feel that my presentation skills improved over the years as I got a better grasp of which key elements to put emphasis on, with more focus on presenting the core gameplay.

What do you attribute to your success in the competition?

Having pitched a few times I would think the following are our keys to a successful presentation:

  1. Keep the pitch really simple, make sure even someone not in the industry will understand your pitch.
  2. Within the limited time given, don’t talk about something that is already common in other games (every game has IAPs, Shops, Battle Pass), unless you do it differently. Focus on what makes your game unique, and what has driven you to make the game.
  3. We always write out our pitch ahead of time, but practice to a point it seems like having a natural conversation. Keep the script light-hearted and friendly.

What do you think you gained from being a part of the Big Indie Pitch?

For me personally, I have always found Big Indie Pitch to be a great test morale boost. I have created many failed games. Sometimes during production, you just can’t quite be sure how the market will react to your game. Having the judges agree with some of your (risky/whacky) game design decisions is always an incredible experience.

One of the judges (who worked on World of Warcraft), upon hearing about Hyper Dungeon’s design philosophy on the rune system, gave us the slightest nod of the head; that made me really happy.

Following The Big Indie Pitch, how did things progress with Pixel Petz, Fatal Funnel and Dungeon Warriors!?

Pixel Petz and Dungeon Warriors (now known as Tiny Fantasy!) have both had incredible results. The two games transformed the studio and continue to operate nicely. It is very unfortunate to say that Fatal Funnel didn’t share the same success (we have some clues on why it didn’t work out, but more on that in another time). Although “embrace failure” is a sad motto, I do believe learning from failures is an important part of reaching the next success.

You recently won the pitch with your new title Hyper Dungeon. Can you tell us a little bit more about the game and what makes it unique and interesting?

Hyper Dungeon is created by Kaha, Yuan Ming and me, with one goal in mind: a very casual, lazy, Diablo-like game that people can play on the go. We boiled down what was so fun about the item finding in Diablo to the basic core, and transformed that into a Rune system. It is kind of a Tetris system and each piece has a bunch of abilities on it. Players need to piece together what they find.

Nowadays in mobile hack ‘n’ slash, dropping items often lack excitement. After getting the new item, you either need to spend more time/money to level it up, or you feel forced into following guides for the best “meta”. We wanted to get rid of that so players have to equip and create their strongest character with what they find.

Image credit: Minidragon

Finally, is there any advice you would offer to indie developers considering entering The Big Indie Pitch or who are just starting out?

For developers entering Big Indie Pitch, my advice would be to take as many opportunities to meet all sorts of industry people to get feedback on your games. So many people are friendly and extremely willing to give you guidance and pointers. You will get so much feedback that you wouldn’t think of before. So be very active in reaching out after the pitch.

For people just starting out I would have the following advice:

It really isn’t easy to sustain a game studio. There is a saying, that 9 out of 10 games will fail commercially. 9 out of 10 game studios will be gone by the end of the year. So if you finally have an opportunity to develop a game for a certain period of time, use that time and budget to create a few games instead of one. Even if that means you need to have a smaller scope per project or make less content to get it tested in the market faster. Especially for mobile games, you can always update more later.


Want to show off your exciting new game? We host Big Indie Pitch events throughout the year, so be sure to keep an eye out on our events page for an event near you, or even our new Digital pitches.

All our upcoming pitches including how to enter can be found over on our upcoming events page on BigIndiePitch.com.

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Developer Evangelist & Big Indie Pitch Manager / Special Features Writer

Queen of all things Indie. Sophia is Steel Media’s Big Indie Pitch Manager and Developer Evangelist. She’s also a global speaker and lifelong gamer with a fanatical love of all things Nintendo and Japan. So much so that she’s written a thesis on one and lived in the other.